{"id":104,"date":"2016-08-31T18:37:15","date_gmt":"2016-08-31T22:37:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fearofflying.com\/library\/?p=104"},"modified":"2016-08-31T18:37:15","modified_gmt":"2016-08-31T22:37:15","slug":"transcript-of-the-demonstration-flight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fearofflying.com\/library\/transcript-of-the-demonstration-flight\/","title":{"rendered":"Transcript Of The Demonstration Flight"},"content":{"rendered":"

Note: the clients who volunteered to participate in this course which was video\u00a0taped did NOT have the benefit of the Strengthening Exercise, which was\u00a0developed later. Though these volunteers did well, present-day clients who have\u00a0learned and practiced the Strengthening Exercise can expect to do even better,\u00a0since this exercise is designed to stop high anxiety, claustrophobia and panic\u00a0before it can start<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Because of all the noise on the flight, it is hard to pick out everything being\u00a0said. So I have transcribed what was said and am sending you a copy now.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

I hope this will help you get the maximum benefit from this DVD. The time\u00a0code is included for reference. You can make a selection on your DVD player\u00a0that will show the time code on the screen.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

00:01:32<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Umm . . I went through a lot of stuff last night and this morning.<\/span><\/p>\n

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I mean really why I couldn’t fly<\/span><\/p>\n

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and I really did imagery and<\/span><\/p>\n

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I really created myself<\/span><\/p>\n

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you know . . . in disaster.<\/span><\/p>\n

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and I feel my stomach is in knots<\/span><\/p>\n

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I feel nervous<\/span><\/p>\n

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but other than that<\/span><\/p>\n

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I keep saying to myself<\/span><\/p>\n

00:00:57<\/span><\/p>\n

is it OK . . . I mean, like . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

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I’m alright, I’m anticipating<\/span><\/p>\n

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I cannot say in all honestly ‘I’m – like – excited’<\/span><\/p>\n

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Umm . . . anxious<\/span><\/p>\n

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I’m anticipating<\/span><\/p>\n

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I’m glad it’s here finally<\/span><\/p>\n

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not doing it tonight<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:12<\/span><\/p>\n

Um . . . and I feel a lot better<\/span><\/p>\n

00:01:15<\/span><\/p>\n

than I did when I left here yesterday<\/span><\/p>\n

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I feel like I’ve kind of worked through it,<\/span><\/p>\n

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a lot of stuff<\/span><\/p>\n

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and I know that a lot more to come on the plane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:24<\/span><\/p>\n

I know that that’s true, and I’m just leaving myself open<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:29<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) It’s working out good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:31<\/span><\/p>\n

I don’t want to punch in anything . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:36<\/span><\/p>\n

You know what<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:38<\/span><\/p>\n

I don’t know what I want them to fly us like<\/span><\/p>\n

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I’m going to check it out here.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:42<\/span><\/p>\n

I think I’m just going to give them (the pilots) a report card<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:44<\/span><\/p>\n

I am.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:45<\/span><\/p>\n

That’s right – going to check it off and see if they did good.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:49<\/span><\/p>\n

I want to see, I want to see this<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:52<\/span><\/p>\n

They were very nice, Alan, weren’t they nice?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:02:55<\/span><\/p>\n

See this lady here? See this lady?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:06<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cYou are on a Boeing 737 airplane\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cThis aircraft has four exit doors\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cOne on each side of the front of the airplane\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cand one on each side in the back\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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(Georgia) I’m fine. I can’t believe it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:20<\/span><\/p>\n

(laughter at Georgia who can’t believe she feels fine)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:30<\/span><\/p>\n

Oh, you’re a ‘plant’<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:32<\/span><\/p>\n

Tom planted you in this group<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:41<\/span><\/p>\n

We can even enjoy this<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:49<\/span><\/p>\n

Did you enjoy it.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:51<\/span><\/p>\n

How do you feel now?<\/span><\/p>\n

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I feel terrific<\/span><\/p>\n

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I feel like there’s a big burden lifted<\/span><\/p>\n

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and I’m going to be fine<\/span><\/p>\n

00:03:59<\/span><\/p>\n

We’ve learned that the plane is safe<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:01<\/span><\/p>\n

Everyone knows what they are doing<\/span><\/p>\n

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You might as well enjoy it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:07<\/span><\/p>\n

So that’s it, you know . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:10<\/span><\/p>\n

You get an ear-block<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:12<\/span><\/p>\n

You just have to see an ENT (ear, nose and throat doctor)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:14<\/span><\/p>\n

and see if he can clear it for you<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:16<\/span><\/p>\n

This is where I’m going to plan our next trip?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:20<\/span><\/p>\n

They are planning their next trip already<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:23<\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, we are planning our next trip for next month<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:25<\/span><\/p>\n

I’m serious<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:26<\/span><\/p>\n

We are going to have our own travel club going<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:29<\/span><\/p>\n

Ah, yeah, the door is closed<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:31<\/span><\/p>\n

Yep, we are all set with the door<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:33<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) We’re over the wing<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:35<\/span><\/p>\n

Right over the wing – and look<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:37<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) If you look out – can everybody look out on the wing<\/span><\/p>\n

for a minute?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:41<\/span><\/p>\n

there are some panels out there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:43<\/span><\/p>\n

that are this long<\/span><\/p>\n

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and about this wide<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:46<\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, show them the “spoilers” , the “speed brakes” there, Van<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:51<\/span><\/p>\n

If you are on the airplane and you feel its like going across<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:54<\/span><\/p>\n

the Fifty-ninth Street Bridge (bridge with metal grid surface)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:56<\/span><\/p>\n

a metal bridge – it has a vibration in it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:57<\/span><\/p>\n

look out on the wing and you will probably see<\/span><\/p>\n

00:04:59<\/span><\/p>\n

that those flaps – those are the speed brakes – are up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:03<\/span><\/p>\n

Look out on the wing and you’ll probably see those<\/span><\/p>\n

speed brakes are up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:05<\/span><\/p>\n

And that’s what is causing the airplane to slow down<\/span><\/p>\n

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or go down steeper<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:11<\/span><\/p>\n

and what it does is it disturbs the airflow<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:13<\/span><\/p>\n

and causes that sensation<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:15<\/span><\/p>\n

the other thing it could be<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:17<\/span><\/p>\n

is that the flaps may be being moved<\/span><\/p>\n

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up or down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:21<\/span><\/p>\n

that will also cause that<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:23<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Do you hear that? The flaps going down?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:25<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) In fact, while we taxi out<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:27<\/span><\/p>\n

you want to know, you want to know the flaps are<\/span><\/p>\n

out for sure<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:29<\/span><\/p>\n

right here you can see it – the flaps you’ll see them<\/span><\/p>\n

go down – you can<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:33<\/span><\/p>\n

also hear them go down – I’ll point out the noise<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:35<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) This isn’t the position we are supposed to<\/span><\/p>\n

be in – when . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) This is the position for regular flight – not<\/span><\/p>\n

for takeoff<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:41<\/span><\/p>\n

This is not the takeoff position<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Where is that?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:44<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) I’ll show you that when the flaps go down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:46<\/span><\/p>\n

to the takeoff position I’ll show you that<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:47<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Alright<\/span><\/p>\n

00:05:54<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) “There’s two airplanes that have to push<\/span><\/p>\n

back into the gate in the area behind us.”<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:00<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cand we have to wait for the second airplane\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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\u201cto be cleared in\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:07<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Well, unless we know how to fly backwards<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:09<\/span><\/p>\n

I’m not worried about taking off right yet<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:18<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) This one back here, see that door exit back there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:21<\/span><\/p>\n

Take another look around to your left there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:23<\/span><\/p>\n

You see that door? Look around to your left there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:25<\/span><\/p>\n

You see that door OK. That’s another way out<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:29<\/span><\/p>\n

You just run back there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:31<\/span><\/p>\n

The stewardess opens the door<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:33<\/span><\/p>\n

There is an escape slide – just slide down the slide<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:38<\/span><\/p>\n

So that is the closest exit to us<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:40<\/span><\/p>\n

This is the next closest – and over the wing<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:43<\/span><\/p>\n

Remember – the one “over the wing exit” is something<\/span><\/p>\n

you can open yourself<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:48<\/span><\/p>\n

If you want to take care of yourself on an airplane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:51<\/span><\/p>\n

the safest place to sit is by that over-wing emergency exit<\/span><\/p>\n

00:06:56<\/span><\/p>\n

In a crash, very, very seldom<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:00<\/span><\/p>\n

are people killed by impact<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:02<\/span><\/p>\n

but are killed by smoke because they don’t get out of the<\/span><\/p>\n

airplane fast enough<\/span><\/p>\n

00:7:21<\/span><\/p>\n

(Van) Yeah, you can stand up – you can stretch your legs<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:25<\/span><\/p>\n

You can’t – but you gotta understand<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:28<\/span><\/p>\n

that this airplane is only going to be flying<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:31<\/span><\/p>\n

for an hour and a little bit<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) What are they?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) The over-wing exit is the safest place to sit<\/span><\/p>\n

on the airplane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:47<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Just tell them that (you want the over-wing exit)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:50<\/span><\/p>\n

and they will give it to you<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:51<\/span><\/p>\n

and therefore you will know you have<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:53<\/span><\/p>\n

your own personal way out of the airplane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:55<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) But, I know that the . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:56<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) He’s starting the engines<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:57<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) You know what?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:59<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) I know that the pilots’ windows open –<\/span><\/p>\n

you can get out there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:06<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Hey everybody<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:08<\/span><\/p>\n

take a look out on the wing, the flaps – they are in<\/span><\/p>\n

the take-off position<\/span><\/p>\n

08:08:10<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) That’s the slice position<\/span><\/p>\n

08:08:12<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) The takeoff position and there’s kind of a<\/span><\/p>\n

split between them<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:16<\/span><\/p>\n

That’s the take-off position on this airplane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:18<\/span><\/p>\n

Every airplane is a little different<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:20<\/span><\/p>\n

But they are set for take-off now<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08: 24<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Did you see that?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:26<\/span><\/p>\n

Take a look at the flaps<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:28<\/span><\/p>\n

you can see they’re in the take-off position<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:32<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Ah, good<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:34<\/span><\/p>\n

I like this – I like taxi – Isn’t this fun?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:37<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom, kidding) Can we go back now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) This is when I want to say to the captain<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) I’ve had enough you can take me back now<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) What are you smiling about?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:42<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Huh?<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) You’re looking good now<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:44<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) I feel really good.<\/span><\/p>\n

(Van) Yah, yah, yah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:46<\/span><\/p>\n

I can’t believe I’m really here<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:49<\/span><\/p>\n

but when we get . . . up<\/span><\/p>\n

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I’ll let you know later – I’ll let you know<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:53<\/span><\/p>\n

but it’s like legal to have an OK flight<\/span><\/p>\n

00:08:57<\/span><\/p>\n

That’s alright<\/span><\/p>\n

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(Capt) Flight attendants prepare for takeoff<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:05<\/span><\/p>\n

What did he say?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:06<\/span><\/p>\n

Flight attendants prepare for takeoff<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:08<\/span><\/p>\n

that means if they were up walking around in the<\/span><\/p>\n

aisles, to sit<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:11<\/span><\/p>\n

(baby makes noise)<\/span><\/p>\n

You’re going to be in the movies now<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:39<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) That’s the end already – that’s already<\/span><\/p>\n

the end<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:47<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Let’s see what’s in the magazine<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:50<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) . . . in Korea<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:52<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Talking about Korea . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

did you watch any of the Olympics?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:09:56<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Well, the “open”.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:00<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Now, this is it, huh?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:02<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Almost it. OK.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:03<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Fifteen seconds<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:05<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) OK, we’re going to be rolling in<\/span><\/p>\n

about fifteen seconds<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:07<\/span><\/p>\n

Now listen, everybody, he’s going to push<\/span><\/p>\n

the throttles up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:11<\/span><\/p>\n

It’s going to push you back in your seat<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:13<\/span><\/p>\n

Then look out the window, see if you can<\/span><\/p>\n

estimate out speed<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:16<\/span><\/p>\n

When we get up to about 120<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:18<\/span><\/p>\n

He’s going to pull back on the wheel<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:20<\/span><\/p>\n

the nose is going to go into the air and<\/span><\/p>\n

off we go<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:22<\/span><\/p>\n

so look out the window when we start<\/span><\/p>\n

rolling<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:31<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) This is loud<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:33<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Lots of noise<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:35<\/span><\/p>\n

OK how fast are we going now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10;37<\/span><\/p>\n

Take a look out the window and see how<\/span><\/p>\n

fast we are going<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) FAST (and laughs)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:42<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Fast, OK – How fast?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:44<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Eighty – you think?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:46<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Yep – that’s good, right?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:50<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) We’re just about ready to bring<\/span><\/p>\n

the nose up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:52<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) OK reach out and bring the nose<\/span><\/p>\n

up, pull back<\/span><\/p>\n

on the wheel<\/span><\/p>\n

00:10:56<\/span><\/p>\n

There we go, here we go<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:00<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Whoo hoo (aughts)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:03<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Making a turn to the right – making<\/span><\/p>\n

a turn to the right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:07<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) I can see my house<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:09<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Where do you live?<\/span><\/p>\n

00: 11:16<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) It’s just that that there was much happening<\/span><\/p>\n

– like there is for you right now<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:21<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) OK, what they just did is they reduced the power<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:24<\/span><\/p>\n

Did you hear it get a little quieter?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:26<\/span><\/p>\n

They pull back the throttles to make it quieter for people<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:29<\/span><\/p>\n

who live below this airport area<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:34<\/span><\/p>\n

(Van) Yankee Stadium<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:36<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Why don’t you ask how Alan is doing?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Alan, Alan, how are you doing?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:42<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Fine, but you know there’s nothing to<\/span><\/p>\n

worry about right now<\/span><\/p>\n

00:11:45<\/span><\/p>\n

It was bumpier going to LaGuardia (airport)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:01<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) This is the turbulence<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:07<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Yeah, that was turbulence<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:17<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Hey, Alan<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:20<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) I can see my house – I can see my apartment house<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:31<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) That was just a little bump in the air<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:33<\/span><\/p>\n

That was turbulence<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:35<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:36<\/span><\/p>\n

Comfortable<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Just like going down the road in your car and<\/span><\/p>\n

you hit a little bump<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) It’s almost, it’s almost like a train, you know,<\/span><\/p>\n

because<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:43<\/span><\/p>\n

It took a long time for me to get on a train<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:46<\/span><\/p>\n

And when I’m on a train – it looks like McDonald’s<\/span><\/p>\n

they are serving<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:50<\/span><\/p>\n

And I, uhh, it’s like a train, it’s almost like a train<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:54<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Except a train usually goes sideways<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12: 56<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah, I like that, tut-su, tut-su. It’s like being<\/span><\/p>\n

rocked in your mother’s arms<\/span><\/p>\n

00:12:58<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Yeah, up and down, that’s different stuff<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:00<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah, that’s not too good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:01<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Every time you start to feel down . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:03<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Why are we doing that?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:05<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) What is that?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:07<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) Why do we need to . . . why can’t we just<\/span><\/p>\n

go in a straight line?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:09<\/span><\/p>\n

Why are we turning?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:11<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Because . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:12<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) We’re turning<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:14<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) We’re making a little turn<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:16<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) What happens is they have these highways<\/span><\/p>\n

built in the sky<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:19<\/span><\/p>\n

So that traffic going down to Washington goes<\/span><\/p>\n

one route<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:22<\/span><\/p>\n

The traffic coming back goes a different route<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:24<\/span><\/p>\n

It’s like a one-way highway, so they go out this way<\/span><\/p>\n

and make some turns<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:27<\/span><\/p>\n

The ones coming back from Washington make some<\/span><\/p>\n

turns just to stay out<\/span><\/p>\n

of each other’s way<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:31<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) So we are going to be doing that every so often<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:33<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Once in a while, yeah, and then also the<\/span><\/p>\n

navigation stuff . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:37<\/span><\/p>\n

You know, the wind changes, and sometime you have<\/span><\/p>\n

to make a little turn left or right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:40<\/span><\/p>\n

Just to keep on the highway – actually its an airway –<\/span><\/p>\n

but you know, it’s like a highway<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:46<\/span><\/p>\n

And wind blows it a bit<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:49<\/span><\/p>\n

You know, actually when you are driving your car,<\/span><\/p>\n

you make a little adjustment now and then<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:52<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) Right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:53<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) It’s the same thing in the air<\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:59<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) You must be down to a “two” (anxiety scale<\/span><\/p>\n

of zero to ten)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:00<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) I would, I would like to know – right now –<\/span><\/p>\n

what’s your anxiety level<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:02<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda shakes her head)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:04<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) None?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:06<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Fine!<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:07<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) What does that mean?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:08<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) You look fine<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:10<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Better? Did it look like I was going to l<\/span><\/p>\n

lose it back there for a while?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:12<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) It wasn’t that bad. Not that bad. What are<\/span><\/p>\n

you at now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:16<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) I’m fine, I . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:18<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) So what’s fine? A “zero”?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:20<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) No I feel like<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:21<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Zero?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:22<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) About a “one”<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:23<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) You’re kidding!<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:24<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Matter of fact, I’m mad at myself<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:29<\/span><\/p>\n

For not feeling though . . . I thought this whole trip<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:33<\/span><\/p>\n

so far was going to be a “ten”.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) . . . asking how long this (turbulence) is going to last<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) I really . . . I really just – I feel like my brain was<\/span><\/p>\n

going to explode<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) What did I tell you?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:45<\/span><\/p>\n

You remember what I said, as long as you stay in<\/span><\/p>\n

your movie<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:47<\/span><\/p>\n

so let’s go ahead.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:48<\/span><\/p>\n

You didn’t want to come out of your movie<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:50<\/span><\/p>\n

So I went ahead and what? To supported your movie<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:52<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:53<\/span><\/p>\n

You went to the end of your movie<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:55<\/span><\/p>\n

And then what do you do at the end of a movie?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:56<\/span><\/p>\n

You walk out of the theater<\/span><\/p>\n

00:14:58<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:24<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) What would you like to know?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:26<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) How do you feel? What was the takeoff like?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:30<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) The takeoff was . . . ah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:32<\/span><\/p>\n

I mean I was scared during the takeoff<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:34<\/span><\/p>\n

I have to say that I was not really – I mean – you sat next<\/span><\/p>\n

to me – I wasn’t panicky was I during takeoff?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:38<\/span><\/p>\n

Nervous<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15;39<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) No but you had going down your face<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:41<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Yeah I was nervous during the takeoff – until we<\/span><\/p>\n

finally hit elevation<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:45<\/span><\/p>\n

When we hit elevation, I – you know – my body started to relax<\/span><\/p>\n

00:1:49<\/span><\/p>\n

I didn’t panic and I didn’t have a panic attack – I didn’t have<\/span><\/p>\n

any of those things<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:53<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) What was the worst part<\/span><\/p>\n

00:15:55<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) The takeoff – getting – making – having the flight go<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:00<\/span><\/p>\n

faster and faster and faster until it reaches up – until it levels<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:04<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) You think it would be that easy?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:07- 00:16:11<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) It was petty much the way I had pictured it this morning<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:12<\/span><\/p>\n

That’s the toughest part for me, is that takeoff<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:15<\/span><\/p>\n

And now, I mean, I’m relatively, I mean I’m OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:20<\/span><\/p>\n

I’m not sitting here totally relaxed<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:23<\/span><\/p>\n

but I think I’m as relaxed as I could possibly be<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:25<\/span><\/p>\n

for my first flight after eight years<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:28<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) I didn’t realize it was that long<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:29<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) So, here (points to Alan)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:31<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) Alan?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:33<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Yes<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:35<\/span><\/p>\n

Run the questions by me again – I’m not<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:37<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) How did you feel taking off?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:38<\/span><\/p>\n

What went through your mind?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) I noticed that . . . from my knees down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:49<\/span><\/p>\n

I felt as though I was weak-kneed<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:52<\/span><\/p>\n

Ahm . . . but I was also surprised by it because the rest of me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:57<\/span><\/p>\n

didn’t feel too bad<\/span><\/p>\n

00:16:59<\/span><\/p>\n

Ah . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:02<\/span><\/p>\n

it – nah – I had people to talk to<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:07<\/span><\/p>\n

which makes it for a little bit of an unread situation<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:10<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) I hated the beginning<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:13<\/span><\/p>\n

I really thought I was going to lose it – I thought<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:15<\/span><\/p>\n

. . . ah . . . it was the same exact feelings of<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:17<\/span><\/p>\n

what I had before and I knew I was going to have – I mean<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:22<\/span><\/p>\n

what I went through I had practiced many times<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:25<\/span><\/p>\n

and I didn’t want to go through that<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:27<\/span><\/p>\n

and I thought that I was going to go through this whole movie<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:31<\/span><\/p>\n

of sheer hell<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:33<\/span><\/p>\n

for this whole flight<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:36<\/span><\/p>\n

and I didn’t think my body could take that that sheer<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:40<\/span><\/p>\n

that’s the hardest thing – when I tell you –<\/span><\/p>\n

that I ever had to do in my whole life<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:44<\/span><\/p>\n

is sit here<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:45 – 00:17:47<\/span><\/p>\n

the hardest thing<\/span><\/p>\n

00: 17:47<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) We are at twenty thousand feet now, six miles<\/span><\/p>\n

east of Lancaster Pennsylvania<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:52<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) We are almost home<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:54<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) We will be passing over Gettysburg . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:17:57<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) I really thought I was going to say, Tom, thank<\/span><\/p>\n

you but I can’t do it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:00<\/span><\/p>\n

I, I really . . . and I said to Marguerette, walking down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:05<\/span><\/p>\n

I said, Marguerette, I want to cry before I get there because<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:09<\/span><\/p>\n

I had so much emotion built up to the top<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:12<\/span><\/p>\n

that I wanted to really cry – just get it out of me, but uh,<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:1<\/span><\/p>\n

and then I thought, well I could control it, you know, and<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:20<\/span><\/p>\n

then, the ‘Old Linda’ came back and said,<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:23<\/span><\/p>\n

You Jerk – why do you have to do this, you know . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:26<\/span><\/p>\n

What are you proving<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:28<\/span><\/p>\n

and I said<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:30<\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, you’re right, you know, let’s get the hell out of here<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:33<\/span><\/p>\n

Your mother isn’t dying some other state, let’s just<\/span><\/p>\n

get out of here<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:36<\/span><\/p>\n

Let your husband go on these other flights<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:39<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) There were certain points where would<\/span><\/p>\n

feel like a surge of adrenalin<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:45<\/span><\/p>\n

and then I realized – you know – the thing that he talked<\/span><\/p>\n

about -that I was making a movie<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:49<\/span><\/p>\n

You know . . . I . . . just find my mind dwelling on<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:54<\/span><\/p>\n

like the vibration under my feet<\/span><\/p>\n

00:18:56<\/span><\/p>\n

which . . . why should I<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:01<\/span><\/p>\n

You know, if I dwell on the thought of course I going to start<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:04<\/span><\/p>\n

making a movie out of it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:06<\/span><\/p>\n

so, then I go into the thing of looking around me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:08<\/span><\/p>\n

and just really occupying my mind<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:10<\/span><\/p>\n

but not occupying my mind,<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:12<\/span><\/p>\n

thinking of as many different things as I can<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:15<\/span><\/p>\n

ah . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:18<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) How do you feel now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:20<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Fine, and . . . uh . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:23<\/span><\/p>\n

to tell you the truth I’ve been more nervous some nights<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:26<\/span><\/p>\n

on the subways in some neighborhoods<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:29<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) How do you feel right now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:30<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Very good. Am I talking to you? Am I making sense?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:32<\/span><\/p>\n

I feel good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:34<\/span><\/p>\n

I like it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:35<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) What?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:36<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) I like it, I like it, it’s nice<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:38<\/span><\/p>\n

But I don’t want to look out the window<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) How has the flight been for you so far?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:42<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) It’s fine<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:44<\/span><\/p>\n

It’s really fine<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:46<\/span><\/p>\n

I’m not having any problems at all<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:48<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) At any point along the flight, did you<\/span><\/p>\n

get that nervous feeling back?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:50<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) I was nervous sitting in the airport<\/span><\/p>\n

00:19:55<\/span><\/p>\n

and, uh, but I knew it was something I had to do<\/span><\/p>\n

for my own self<\/span><\/p>\n

00:20:00<\/span><\/p>\n

and once I got on the plane I’m, I’m really trusting<\/span><\/p>\n

what we learned in the course<\/span><\/p>\n

00:20:05<\/span><\/p>\n

and it’s fine, everything is working out fine<\/span><\/p>\n

00:20:26<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) OK. Where are we going next?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:28<\/span><\/p>\n

Well, we have two people here<\/span><\/p>\n

00:20:31<\/span><\/p>\n

Where’s the next good second (place to fly)?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:20:51<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Now, now we’ve leveled off?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:20:54<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Yeah, we’re level but he’s pulled he power back just a little bit<\/span><\/p>\n

00:20:56<\/span><\/p>\n

so he may be getting ready to start down again<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:00<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) Now my old movie would have been, we<\/span><\/p>\n

were speeding up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:03<\/span><\/p>\n

because we were in trouble and we had to get out of<\/span><\/p>\n

there real fast<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:06<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:09<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) Out of somebody else’s way because they<\/span><\/p>\n

were going to hit us<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:11<\/span><\/p>\n

. . . would have been my old movie<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:13<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Is this a lot (of turbulence) – or is this normal?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:16<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) If you asked the captain about this, he would<\/span><\/p>\n

probably say, “What Turbulence?”<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:21<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) It’s foggy because we are going through<\/span><\/p>\n

clouds, huh?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:23<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) We’re in clouds but we will come out of the clouds<\/span><\/p>\n

and we’ll be able to see the ground<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:26<\/span><\/p>\n

So right now just notice how much flaps – see it’s kind of<\/span><\/p>\n

lined up with that edge of the wing –<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:31<\/span><\/p>\n

makes the wing go up and down – that’s how he’s<\/span><\/p>\n

controlling (the plane)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:33<\/span><\/p>\n

You feel a little funny feeling there just a moment ago?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:36<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:37<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Yeah, that’s – the aileron is the thing that makes<\/span><\/p>\n

the wing go up or down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:41<\/span><\/p>\n

So if you watch that<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:43<\/span><\/p>\n

you can see that that’s changing<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:45<\/span><\/p>\n

and that’s causing the wing to go up down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:47<\/span><\/p>\n

or he hit a bump and he’s using that to correct to bring<\/span><\/p>\n

the plane back to level<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:50<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) See now my movie would have been also<\/span><\/p>\n

that it’s broken and it’s not working and that’s why we’re bumping . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:55<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Look at that, look at that, look, look, look, look<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:58<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) What do you see?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:00<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Land<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:01<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) My God, it’s really there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:03<\/span><\/p>\n

In a minute, you are going to hear a noise . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:05<\/span><\/p>\n

It’s going to go like this (sound like a blender)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:21:09<\/span><\/p>\n

There it is – that’s it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:11<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Where is it?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:12<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) The flaps are going down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:14<\/span><\/p>\n

You hear that noise?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:15<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yes, I can see them, yes<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:16<\/span><\/p>\n

There are sliding out<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:17<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) The wing is getting bigger<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:18<\/span><\/p>\n

It’s like the airplane – you know like a seagull<\/span><\/p>\n

comes in for a landing –<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:21<\/span><\/p>\n

he puts his feathers out?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:22<\/span><\/p>\n

That’s the aluminum feathers<\/span><\/p>\n

00:;22:24<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Why, why is this, now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:25<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) This is the airplane’s aluminum feathers<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:27<\/span><\/p>\n

He’s making the wing bigger so we can slow down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:29<\/span><\/p>\n

and land at a slow speed – not a fast speed<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:32<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) OK. Why, why are we going up and down?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:35<\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, why are we going up and down in the air?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:36<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) When you make the wing bigger – when you make the wing – listen<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:39<\/span><\/p>\n

Listen . . . are you listening?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:42<\/span><\/p>\n

When you . . . make the wing bigger – it’s more reactive to<\/span><\/p>\n

those little bumps<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:45<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:47<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) You remember your dad’s little airplane – it bounced<\/span><\/p>\n

around a lot because<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:49<\/span><\/p>\n

it had a big wing on it for its size<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:51<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:52<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) We make the wing bigger – the ride isn’t as good anymore<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:55<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Oh yeah? (NOTE: SOUND OF FLAPS GOING DOWN)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:56<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) That’s right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:57<\/span><\/p>\n

Now the flaps are getting bigger (NOTE: SOUND OF FLAPS GOING DOWN)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:59<\/span><\/p>\n

Hear?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:00<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah . . . yeah (NOTE: SOUND OF FLAPS<\/span><\/p>\n

GOING DOWN)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:02<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) The wing is getting bigger<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:02<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) That means we can fly slower<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:04<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Now he going to slow the airplane down<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) It’s almost like we stopped in mid-air<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:07<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) It’s floating along<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:08 (“UNITED 9560 TOWER AT THE MARKER 119.1)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:11 (PILOT REACHES DOWN TO CHANGE<\/span><\/p>\n

RADIO FREQUENCY<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:13 (“GLIDE SLOPE ALIVE”)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:15 (COPILOT REACHES FOR GEAR HANDLE)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:2315 (“GEAR DOWN”)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:16 (“FLAPS 30”)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:18 (NOTE: SOUND OF GEAR GOING DOWN)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:19 (“FINAL DESCENT CHECKLIST COMPLETE”)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:21 (NOTE: SOUND OF GEAR GOING DOWN)<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) This is the gear going down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:223:23<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) This is the gear going down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:24<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) That’s the gear going down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:25<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Do you hear that, Alan? That’s the gear<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:27<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) OK.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:29<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Now, we’re going about 135 – 140 miles an hour<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:35<\/span><\/p>\n

Now he pushed up the power – he’s got this airplane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:37<\/span><\/p>\n

exactly where he wants it to hold this speed to<\/span><\/p>\n

go down and land<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:41<\/span><\/p>\n

All set up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) This is the way it’s supposed to be?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:44<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) This is exactly the way it’s supposed to be<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:48<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) OK, speed’s good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:49 – 00:23:51<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) Flaps verified at 30 – you’re on profile<\/span><\/p>\n

00:23:51<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) Looking good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:08<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) Looking good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:19<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) Fifty (feet above the runway)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:21<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) Thirty (feet above the runway)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:25<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:27<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:29<\/span><\/p>\n

(Pilot) OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:30<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Son of a gun, I did it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:34<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Alright<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:35<\/span><\/p>\n

I didn’t think I was going to do it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:37<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) There’s the speed brakes<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:39<\/span><\/p>\n

Look out the wing<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) Yeah<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) That’s the speed brakes<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:42<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) That’s the who?<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) Speed brakes<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Tom) That helps us slow down<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:48<\/span><\/p>\n

(Clicks: flap lever being moved up, forward, then stowed)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:51 (“CLEAR ON THE RIGHT”)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:52 (Flap Warning Horn sounds)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:24:58 (“TAXIWAY’S CLEAR”)<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:01<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) I know, it’s hard to believe I really did it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:03<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) I know, I, I<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:05<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) I know . . . it’s a really nice feeling<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:08<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) This is going to be the first plane ride in years<\/span><\/p>\n

that I don’t need<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:11<\/span><\/p>\n

a couple of days to recuperate from<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:13<\/span><\/p>\n

Yeah, I just . . . ah . . . I feel great<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:18<\/span><\/p>\n

I think going back – like I hope I can go through it –<\/span><\/p>\n

you know without<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:22<\/span><\/p>\n

the anxiety but I feel great now<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:26<\/span><\/p>\n

You did it – go call your husband<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:30<\/span><\/p>\n

I can think of all these people in New York I’m going to call<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:33<\/span><\/p>\n

Applaud yourself<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:35<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) I know – I know – that’s why I’m crying –<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:37<\/span><\/p>\n

I can’t believe it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) I can’t believe it either<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:43<\/span><\/p>\n

God, it was a long struggle<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:46<\/span><\/p>\n

(Van) From Kennedy Airport, from home . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:50<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) And now it’s over<\/span><\/p>\n

00:22:54<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) And now I have to talk to the captain<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:57<\/span><\/p>\n

(Copilot) He’s standing right outside the door there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:59<\/span><\/p>\n

(Flight Attendant) You’re smiling<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:02<\/span><\/p>\n

(Copilot) Thank you for coming with us<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:12<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) Do you feel better now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:13<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) Yes<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) That’s great<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:15<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) It was almost too smooth<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:18<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) Oh Alan<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:19<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) I mean, it was<\/span><\/p>\n

no challenge<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:20<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) Where are you going now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:21<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) That is the way it should have been<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) Well, we’re going to hang out and then<\/span><\/p>\n

go back to New York<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:23<\/span><\/p>\n

and it was the way he told you to expect it to be<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:25<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) Alan . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:27<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) It was pretty smooth there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:29<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) Well, I’m glad you enjoyed it – I wish you<\/span><\/p>\n

could have seen the ground, but you didn’t want to<\/span><\/p>\n

see the ground<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:33<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) Oh, I did – I looked –<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:34<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) Good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:35<\/span><\/p>\n

(Marguerette) I looked down – it was OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:39<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) You feel better now – I can tell by your<\/span><\/p>\n

face – you look great<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) Where else can you go about 300 miles<\/span><\/p>\n

in about 45 minutes?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:46<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:48<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) That quick<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:49<\/span><\/p>\n

(Captain) Bye bye<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:50<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) Alan, What advice would you have<\/span><\/p>\n

for somebody who was going to try and overcome<\/span><\/p>\n

their fear of flying?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:26:56<\/span><\/p>\n

What have you learned that you could sort of impart<\/span><\/p>\n

to someone else?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:02<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Right now what goes through my mind as the<\/span><\/p>\n

most important thing is<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:06<\/span><\/p>\n

when Tom talked about what’s happening right then<\/span><\/p>\n

and there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:12<\/span><\/p>\n

Sure there was turbulence at certain points – minor –<\/span><\/p>\n

I have to say it was overall a very smooth flight,<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:17<\/span><\/p>\n

but the turbulence happened when it was supposed to<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:20<\/span><\/p>\n

when I could expect it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:22<\/span><\/p>\n

in the clouds<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:25<\/span><\/p>\n

its common, so when I feel turbulence, I look<\/span><\/p>\n

out the window<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:28<\/span><\/p>\n

I’d see we are in the clouds – it’s OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:31<\/span><\/p>\n

this is where I’ve trained myself to expect it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:34<\/span><\/p>\n

so it was fine – I could deal with it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:37<\/span><\/p>\n

Really the whole thing is keeping everything in a<\/span><\/p>\n

proper perspective<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:44<\/span><\/p>\n

It’s funny – at the start of this<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:47<\/span><\/p>\n

there was a side of me that had everything in<\/span><\/p>\n

proper perspective<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:49<\/span><\/p>\n

but it didn’t mean much, and I know that talking to<\/span><\/p>\n

someone who hasn’t done this program<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:53<\/span><\/p>\n

I’m probably speaking a foreign language to them<\/span><\/p>\n

00:27:56<\/span><\/p>\n

but there comes a point where<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:00<\/span><\/p>\n

the other half does listen, you know, and<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:02<\/span><\/p>\n

you kind of keep things in perspective and you can say<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:04<\/span><\/p>\n

yeah, I don’t particularly care for this but – I may<\/span><\/p>\n

not even like it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:08<\/span><\/p>\n

I may not like it, but I don’t have to worry about it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:11<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) How do you feel right now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:13<\/span><\/p>\n

(Alan) Elated. I, I have a little bit of a headache, you<\/span><\/p>\n

know, but<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:18<\/span><\/p>\n

that doesn’t bother me – I just<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:22<\/span><\/p>\n

feel like I accomplished something – I hope that this stays<\/span><\/p>\n

with me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:25<\/span><\/p>\n

you know, I hope on the way back I don’t have any trouble<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:30<\/span><\/p>\n

We are talking now about our next trip – we really want<\/span><\/p>\n

to go out again<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:35<\/span><\/p>\n

a little more on our own<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:39<\/span><\/p>\n

and I feel like a whole new world – well an old world<\/span><\/p>\n

has come back to me I should say<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:43<\/span><\/p>\n

and I can start considering, you know, on my vacation<\/span><\/p>\n

going to Europe<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:48<\/span><\/p>\n

going anywhere that I can afford, you know<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:51<\/span><\/p>\n

I don’t have to just look at cruises or train – AMTRAK<\/span><\/p>\n

trips, you know<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:56<\/span><\/p>\n

and all East Coast things, you know,<\/span><\/p>\n

00:28:58<\/span><\/p>\n

and I don’t have to buy the books on, you know<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:00<\/span><\/p>\n

“Week-end Trips” and “Bed and Breakfast on Long<\/span><\/p>\n

Island” – you know<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:05<\/span><\/p>\n

I can look to go back to Italy, you know, wherever I want<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:09<\/span><\/p>\n

wherever a plane will go<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:11<\/span><\/p>\n

The other thing I just think a couple of days ago<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:14<\/span><\/p>\n

I wouldn’t have believed this<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:17<\/span><\/p>\n

I hoped to feel like this<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:19<\/span><\/p>\n

And – uh – still it’s a very tenuous situation with me but still<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:23<\/span><\/p>\n

I had hoped to feel the way I feel now<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:26<\/span><\/p>\n

and I didn’t see any way that I would<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:30<\/span><\/p>\n

and I knew that other people did and that was enough<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:32<\/span><\/p>\n

to get me through the program, but<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:35<\/span><\/p>\n

I really didn’t see how it would connect – but it did<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:38<\/span><\/p>\n

There’s something about it that just . . .<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:39<\/span><\/p>\n

. . . clicked<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Basically, the only problem that I had – you<\/span><\/p>\n

know – that I had<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:45<\/span><\/p>\n

was on take off<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:48<\/span><\/p>\n

The take off was a little bit<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:51<\/span><\/p>\n

I was a little bit – ah – tense<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:54<\/span><\/p>\n

I was a little bit tense<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:56<\/span><\/p>\n

when it came to take off<\/span><\/p>\n

00:29:58<\/span><\/p>\n

Other than that, once we got to final elevation<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:02<\/span><\/p>\n

I have to say though I was really OK.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:39:04<\/span><\/p>\n

I mean some of the little bumps and turbulence – I<\/span><\/p>\n

mean – there was really no turbulence<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:08<\/span><\/p>\n

but the couple of little ripples that we had were<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:11<\/span><\/p>\n

you know, slight concern but no big deal.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:15<\/span><\/p>\n

I mean the rest of the flight was – was fine.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:18<\/span><\/p>\n

And I would absolutely get on – I’m going to get<\/span><\/p>\n

on the flight going back<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:21<\/span><\/p>\n

and I would hope that I could fly every other week<\/span><\/p>\n

just to keep this up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:27<\/span><\/p>\n

so that each flight gets better and better and better<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:31<\/span><\/p>\n

so that for me working on the take off area which is<\/span><\/p>\n

the area that’s the biggest problem for me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:36<\/span><\/p>\n

that would get less and less<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) Is there any one thing that you’ve<\/span><\/p>\n

learned about this program?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:44<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Well I’ve worked through a lot of real heavy<\/span><\/p>\n

stuff and I think<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:48<\/span><\/p>\n

that my issue about control and needing to control<\/span><\/p>\n

something and letting go was a real big issue for me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:55<\/span><\/p>\n

and being on that plane you are totally out of control<\/span><\/p>\n

00:30:58<\/span><\/p>\n

you are absolutely at the mercy of somebody else<\/span><\/p>\n

running that plane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:02<\/span><\/p>\n

somebody else has your life in, in – you know – in<\/span><\/p>\n

their hands<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:06<\/span><\/p>\n

and that was real hard for me and I was able to<\/span><\/p>\n

absolutely let go<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:10<\/span><\/p>\n

I mean I checked the cockpit and checked out the<\/span><\/p>\n

pilot and the copilot and he passed my test<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:15<\/span><\/p>\n

and he was fine<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:17<\/span><\/p>\n

and that made me feel real comfortable<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:19<\/span><\/p>\n

and also the fact that I knew what they were<\/span><\/p>\n

doing with they lifted out<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:23<\/span><\/p>\n

I mean I remembered when we did the practice<\/span><\/p>\n

in the cockpit<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:27<\/span><\/p>\n

and that helped me a lot<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:29<\/span><\/p>\n

and I think knowing just a little bit helps me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:31<\/span><\/p>\n

I mean for me personally now I would want to go<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:34<\/span><\/p>\n

and take lessons on learning the mechanics of<\/span><\/p>\n

the plane<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:36<\/span><\/p>\n

because that would make me feel more comfortable<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:38<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) How do you feel right now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:40<\/span><\/p>\n

(Vicki) Now I feel really good<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:42<\/span><\/p>\n

I do – I feel really good – I<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:43<\/span><\/p>\n

I guess you know what it is<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:45<\/span><\/p>\n

I feel really numb<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:47<\/span><\/p>\n

because I keep my<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:50<\/span><\/p>\n

my – my – my intellect says, hey you really did it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:52<\/span><\/p>\n

and my inside says – does it – like I feel numb<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:55<\/span><\/p>\n

because this is eight years of work that I’ve been<\/span><\/p>\n

working on this<\/span><\/p>\n

00:31:59<\/span><\/p>\n

and to finally do it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:00<\/span><\/p>\n

it’s maybe like being pregnant for nine months<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:03<\/span><\/p>\n

and then finally you’re working and you’re<\/span><\/p>\n

working on it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:06<\/span><\/p>\n

and finally you go into labor and you<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:08<\/span><\/p>\n

and you give birth<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:11<\/span><\/p>\n

and it’s almost anti-climatic<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:13<\/span><\/p>\n

so at this point – I mean – I’m really<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:16<\/span><\/p>\n

I’m really happy and I’m real proud of myself<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:18<\/span><\/p>\n

I really am real proud of myself<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:19<\/span><\/p>\n

I feel really good that I was able to do it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:21<\/span><\/p>\n

because for me it was real hard<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:23<\/span><\/p>\n

this was like the ultimate for me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:25<\/span><\/p>\n

absolutely the ultimate<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:27<\/span><\/p>\n

and it’s just a feeling of wonderful<\/span><\/p>\n

accomplishment<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:33<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) What advice would you have<\/span><\/p>\n

for someone who hasn’t flown yet?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:36<\/span><\/p>\n

They have been watching you go through<\/span><\/p>\n

this whole thing for the past three days<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:39<\/span><\/p>\n

But if they haven’t taken the flight, is there something<\/span><\/p>\n

that you’ve learned that you can impart to them?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:45<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) Yeah, my advice would be just to take<\/span><\/p>\n

the chance.<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:49<\/span><\/p>\n

And I think we all found out that it’s OK<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:52<\/span><\/p>\n

We’ve learned techniques to change our negative<\/span><\/p>\n

feelings into positive feelings<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:57<\/span><\/p>\n

We’ve learned that the plane is very safe<\/span><\/p>\n

00:32:59<\/span><\/p>\n

We’ve learned to trust other things and I think that<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:02<\/span><\/p>\n

the big thing is we’ve learned to trust ourselves<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:06<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) Having taken the flight, how do you<\/span><\/p>\n

feel right now?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:09<\/span><\/p>\n

Do you consider it a big success?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:13<\/span><\/p>\n

(Georgia) It’s, it’s a strange feeling<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:17<\/span><\/p>\n

because for me it’s been six years of total avoidance<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:21<\/span><\/p>\n

and this was the last big thing that I had to<\/span><\/p>\n

accomplish before I could<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:26<\/span><\/p>\n

grow up and be the adult and really put my life in<\/span><\/p>\n

order and do what I wanted to do<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:32<\/span><\/p>\n

and it’s scary on one hand that – that it’s over<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:35<\/span><\/p>\n

and then on the other hand it’s this big weight<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:39<\/span><\/p>\n

is off my shoulder<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:41<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) You have to remember to . . . uh<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:45<\/span><\/p>\n

when I went on the flight and I lost it before I took off<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:48<\/span><\/p>\n

I, I couldn’t remember what I was supposed to do<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:52<\/span><\/p>\n

because my anxiety was so enlarged<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:55<\/span><\/p>\n

that I got tunnel vision<\/span><\/p>\n

00:33:57<\/span><\/p>\n

and all I could see was the door and I’m trapped<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:00<\/span><\/p>\n

and it’s going to be pure hell<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:02<\/span><\/p>\n

um, I would suggest<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:05<\/span><\/p>\n

practicing and practicing<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:07<\/span><\/p>\n

picking out colors, a shirt, a watch<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:10<\/span><\/p>\n

a pen, that helped immensely<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:14<\/span><\/p>\n

not putting things in a jar – that did no work for me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:16<\/span><\/p>\n

but this, bringing yourself back to reality<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:19<\/span><\/p>\n

because if you can remember<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:21<\/span><\/p>\n

I couldn’t even pick out the color of the seat right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:23<\/span><\/p>\n

the colors just didn’t come to me<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:24<\/span><\/p>\n

but then afterward<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:26<\/span><\/p>\n

I could pick out the colors<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:28<\/span><\/p>\n

and another thing that made me very nervous<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:31<\/span><\/p>\n

if you notice that I’m handicapped and I was afraid<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:33<\/span><\/p>\n

all this time that I couldn’t walk on the plane right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:36<\/span><\/p>\n

I would mess up – I wouldn’t be able to sit right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:39<\/span><\/p>\n

my leg wouldn’t be right<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:40<\/span><\/p>\n

but I was very comfortable with that<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:43<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) What have you learned over these<\/span><\/p>\n

last couple of days?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:48<\/span><\/p>\n

(Linda) That there’s two people –<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:51<\/span><\/p>\n

two personalities –<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:55<\/span><\/p>\n

and sometime you have to let that little guy<\/span><\/p>\n

00:34:57<\/span><\/p>\n

that keeps saying “no you can’t do it – no you can’t do it”<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:00<\/span><\/p>\n

say, “yes, we can do this”<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:02<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cwe’ll help each other through it\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:04<\/span><\/p>\n

and we can do this<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:06<\/span><\/p>\n

I cannot tell you what a – what a feeling it is to<\/span><\/p>\n

stand in Washington DC<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:11<\/span><\/p>\n

and feel great<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:13<\/span><\/p>\n

It was quite an accomplishment<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:14<\/span><\/p>\n

I’m very proud of myself<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:16<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) Van, what did you learn today?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:18 Did you realize so many people were<\/span><\/p>\n

afraid of flying?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:21<\/span><\/p>\n

(Van) Let me go back a little bit in time<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:24<\/span><\/p>\n

Two days ago my boss said, “Hey look, I got a<\/span><\/p>\n

fear of flying group”<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:28<\/span><\/p>\n

and, ah, he gave me Captain Bunn’s name and said<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:32<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cCan you talk to them for a few minutes?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:343<\/span><\/p>\n

So I said “Yeah, I can handle that”<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:37<\/span><\/p>\n

ah, but when I came up here<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:39<\/span><\/p>\n

I really kind of got into it, and<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:42<\/span><\/p>\n

and began to understand that there are more<\/span><\/p>\n

people out there<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:46<\/span><\/p>\n

that have this, the fear to fly<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:52<\/span><\/p>\n

and, and is not just a, just an uneasy feeling<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:54<\/span><\/p>\n

it’s a panic type of fear<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:58<\/span><\/p>\n

and, uh, some of the things that, that we do<\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:03<\/span><\/p>\n

or portray in our daily activities running an airline<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:08<\/span><\/p>\n

doesn’t do anything to wash away those fears<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:12<\/span><\/p>\n

So I think maybe as I go one from this point<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:16<\/span><\/p>\n

that I’ll keep that in mind more<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:19<\/span><\/p>\n

and I’ll be able to hopefully<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:21<\/span><\/p>\n

conduct the business that I’m in of maintaining<\/span><\/p>\n

airplanes<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:25<\/span><\/p>\n

and, and when we have a mechanical problem<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:29<\/span><\/p>\n

and we’re on a delay<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:31<\/span><\/p>\n

that we can tell people in a layman’s type of language<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:35<\/span><\/p>\n

what the problem is and what we’re doing to correct it<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:38<\/span><\/p>\n

so I, you know, I’ve come away from this with<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:41<\/span><\/p>\n

a better understanding of what a lot of the general<\/span><\/p>\n

flying population has to go through<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:46<\/span><\/p>\n

(Interviewer) Are you proud of it?<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:47<\/span><\/p>\n

You know, I tell you what<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:50<\/span><\/p>\n

I really feel kind of choked up<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:52<\/span><\/p>\n

it’s interesting to see people<\/span><\/p>\n

00:36:55<\/span><\/p>\n

conquer something that is<\/span><\/p>\n

00L36:35<\/span><\/p>\n

extraordinarily frightening to them as anything<\/span><\/p>\n

that they have ever experienced<\/span><\/p>\n

00:37:02<\/span><\/p>\n

and, and yes, I do, I do feel proud of them<\/span><\/p>\n

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